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.: bbrae :. by FnFiNdOART .: bbrae :. by FnFiNdOART
more like passion x beast boy >.>'

yes, people, it's finally happens.

FINALLY.

...and I'm really glad about it XD, when I was a kid , even though I didn't really care about their relationship ( I'm focusing on robstar at that moment :dummy: ), I always thought they'll end up together.

AND MY FEELINGS ARE RIGHT.

YES. I AM SO HAPPY.

AND THIS SCENE IS JUST SO ADORABLE I MUST DRAW IT.

WHO KNEW THEY THAT RAVEN HAVE A CRUSH ON HIM.

AND HE WAS HAPPY BEING HER "PASSION."

AND OF COURSE I SHIP THEM.

OH WAIT, IT'S NOT SHIPPING IF IT'S CANNON.

BUT WHATEVER.

please enjoy and leave comment ~ >u<
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ThePenVsTheSword Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015  Student Writer
Very cute!
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Roa-Hate Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Student Digital Artist
In that chap passion was all over BB, not CY, not Rob, just BB.
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CocoaCutie178 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Robstar? I call it robinfire XD
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warwolf89 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2014
from what episode is?
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123cupcake Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
purple raven is by far da best. no prize for guessing why i said dat. :3
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StarfireTamaran472 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What is canon anyways? I've always wondered...
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
cannon means official-- or so I thought XD
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StarfireTamaran472 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh...are they official??
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014
well, I think they are XD
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StarfireTamaran472 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Heehee! ;P
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Roa-Hate Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Cannon means it's in the real and original universe, when something like a ship it'scannon it meants that it could and possible be real within the universe story.

it might or not might happen, but the possibilities EXIST just as BB-rae in TTG, they where cannon since several chapter focused on them AS a couple, or Rob-star, it wascannon all the show due the first chapter kiss and it became oficcial when the movie was released.
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Roa-Hate Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Student Digital Artist
PD: and yes, it's cannon, in the real comic they dates... before 52... damn 52
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TottleTheRunt Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Student Artist
Pretty. :D
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
thank you ! c:
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TottleTheRunt Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Student Artist
o3o
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kitteh---girl Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
So much squee!!! QwQ
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
it really was a cute bbrae moment, no ? ;u;
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kitteh---girl Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
YEAH!!!  I am a dummy! 
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4br1l Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013
i hate beastboyxraven
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013

ah, too bad then :c I really love them, they're so adorable ! :heart:

but I understand that everyone have a different opinions towards something c:

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elston3695 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013

Oo is there a new series????

what bout terra ?

this is like narusaku

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SMEGHEAD1993 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
hate to burst your bubble there but Beast Boy and Raven are a canon romance in the DC comics
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elston3695 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
canon romance??
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SMEGHEAD1993 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
either check Wikipedia for beast boy or ravens homepage or you will see some when you type BBRae into the search browser
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013

yup, it's called " teen titans go ! ", those series are really funny :'D

but I prefer the old ones though :'D

I duno,terra doesn't appear much on the show :/

and what do you mean this is like narusaku ? :?

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epicpenguin145 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beast Boy looks adorable in this picture! And oh my gosh I started squealing when this happened! :'D
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013

thank you ! beast boy is really a cutie >u< :heart:

I know ! this scene is just so adorable ;u;

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epicpenguin145 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
He really is :XD: :heart:
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Revan005 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
Cute.
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
thanks ! :'D
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Revan005 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
:D
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yaminekoyami Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
Cute
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
thank you ! :la:
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yaminekoyami Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
You welcome!
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Jose-Ramiro Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hey, very good one.
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
thanks ! c:
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minotaurlord9 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
If you watch the ending of terra-ized Raven, the real one not an emotion, basically says she has a crush on Beast Boy...in her own way that only we viewer's know.
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FnFiNdOART Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
true c:
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Well, when the comics had 'em canon for 8 years, when the old show had its moments (Nevermore, The Beast Within, and Spellbound), when the comics based on the show had their moments, when this new series basically flaunts it, when Greg Cipes and Tara Strong themselves ship it, and when you understand that the basis for Beast Boy/Raven has its roots in a fairytale...there you go, then.
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Anonymous--Rex Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
That's a bit of an extrapolation.  While you have a very pretty and intriguing parallel highlighted between it and Beauty and the Beast, by no means can you say this was written to that mold.  This is especially true as there are levels of interpretation to your parallel that do not necessarily hold true due to their simple nature as interpretations.  They're not based off a fairy tale, despite what parallels you can draw.

Also, it's worth pointing out that their relationship in the comic was most likely influenced by their chemistry in the animated series.  Geoff Johns was the writer who set that in motion and there are a few areas that are explicit in their influences.  It's worth noting that these eight years were, at their earliest, contemporary to the animated series.
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013

"Also, it's worth pointing out that their relationship in the comic was most likely influenced by their chemistry in the animated series."

EXCEPT:

1. The comics were being printed before the show's debut, since the comics were basically being brought back after "Graduation Day" seperated the New Teen Titans' 80s team and the Young Justice members disbanded during the last half of the 90s. In the then-new comics, the main Young Justice members became the newest Titans under the mentoring tuteledge of the remaining New Teen Titans team, with Cyborg largely being in the background & Nightwing (and later Starfire) making sparce appearances here and there--especially for large, group team-up stories--due to joining the Outsiders, therefore making Beast Boy and a reborn Raven (this time, in her third life as a teen) the default leaders and dating, just as Nightwing and Starfire had done before them during the 80s timeline. Bombshell's betrayal was even a repeat of the Terra situation before the original blond bitch herself resurfaced along with many other deceased former Titans during the Blackest Night arc. By the end of it--as in Titans #100, the very last issue before the New 52 reboot RETCONNED the entire DC Universe into non-existance--Beast Boy and Raven were the final, end couple, basically proving that, as far as the original comic timeline before the reboot is concerned, Nightwing/Starfire and Beast Boy/Raven were the definitive pairings.

This, in turn, carried INTO the series, essentially, even if the series was basically a nod to the 80s comics and various other time periods (70s heroes Bumblebee and The Herald [Karen and Mal were married for decades in the comics before the "DC hates happy endings" hammer came down on them], 70s villain Dr. Light [not to be confused with the good guy of the Mega Man videogame brand], British 60s spoof fashion designer Mad Mod, Larry as Robin's Batmite, etc.) as well as other franchises (Clash of the Planets, DBZ, Star Wars, Dr. Suess, the Looney Tunes [also owned by Time-Warner, as DC Comics themselves are], the Muppets, villains like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget, et al), courtesy of inside joke fanboy villain, Control Freak (or call we say, Control Geek).

2. Geoff Johns EXPLICITLY stated that his idea to put BB and Rae together was conceived BEFORE the series was underway, so really, who is truly being influenced? The show, being that the comics that were to bring BB and Rae together were being printed during the show's run (nevermind that, without Raven healing him from a near fatal gunshot wound in the 80s, Beast Boy wouldn't have lived to be her boyfriend in the future) or the comics, due to the show's popularity subtlely promoting the concept of the pairing (in reality though, fans crossing over from one media to the other often lead to both the comics and the show influencing each other in a way)?

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Anonymous--Rex Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
In regards to your first point, no, Teen Titans volume 3 was not released before the animated series.  Graduation Day did predate the animated series by a month.  The animated series predates volume 3 by a month, in turn.  Either way, Graduation Day wasn't written by Johns, so I don't believe it's relevant to the current topic.

Anyhow, Raven and Beast Boy never even exchanged words until issue 11.  By that point, the animated series was well into the second season- having long since passed benchmark Nevermore and a couple of smaller "scenes" here and there. 

And I've read all that.  I didn't need the play by play.

Now, your second point.  If you can show me where Johns said this, I'll happily eat my words.  My remarks were founded on comments he's made concerning other things (the reason for creating M'gann comes to mind foremost).  In other words, citing proofs of influence to support a surmise.  Either way, show me that remark and I'll concede.

And yes, some degree of mutual influence is to be expected.  Now to what degree and what specifically can vary greatly.
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013

In regards to your first point, no, Teen Titans volume 3 was not released before the animated series.

So? Were it not for Raven healing him from a near-fatal gunshot wound (Slade shot him) during the NTT timeline [ 1.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLJm9IHkZk… ], Beast Boy wouldn't have been around for her to get with in the future. Nevermind that Raven was still overly protective of the changeling regardless of their age gap at the time (during the Terra arc, she was in her first life [which was that of a college-age woman], in comparison to Beast Boy and Terra both being the youngest on the team at age 14-16). But at the time, it was more like a mother protecting its child, even when Beast Boy--as did Kid Flash--made passes at every available girl, her included (thus making their relationship at the time a rather Fruedian-style one).

Still, Raven's fondness for Beast Boy never wavered, despite Trigon's arrival, her own dark side implanting Trigon seeds into those closest to her (with Beast Boy himself getting possessed into becoming only demonic creatures at Evil/Dark Raven's behest & Beast Boy's own feral form suffering from primal rage being the result of the Trigon seed mixing with Beast Boy's already unsteady DNA [as opposed to the Beast unleashed via the fight at the chemical-testing lab seen in the cartoon]), her own problems with love (she mind-controlled Kid Flash and Nightwing to feel attracted to her against their will, nevermind her aforementioned issues of commitment regarding Jericho or Eric Forrester's wicked trechery), and of course, Beast Boy feeling like he didn't deserve love after Terra's betrayal (he was so heartbroken, he temporarily left the team to strike out on his own, but eventually returned, incidentally at the same time that Slade became an ally to the Titans).

However, even if the idea was being tossed around even in the 80s-90s heyday by writers and editors, it is true that Raven and Beast Boy didn't become an official item until the Geoff Johns-J.T. Krul comic run (the 2003-2011 timeline).

Now, your second point. If you can show me where Johns said this, I'll happily eat my words.

Specifically regarding the choice of character roster, Geoff had this to say:

There is a lot of ‘They’re in the cartoon! That’s why they’re in the book!’” laughs Johns. “To some extent, sure. The more exposure the better, but really when I was asked about this a year ago my immediate thought was Wolfman/Pérez Titans with the new kids. Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy and Wonder Girl, Robin, Superboy, Impulse. That made the most sense to me in terms of dynamics. When ‘New Teen Titans’ launched it was the new generation and the classic, that’s what I wanted to do here. The new generation and the classic. Am I glad the cartoon features some of the same characters? Sure. The more people know about the Titans, the more recognizable these characters are, the better. But if you want to blame someone for the line-up, blame me.”

That being said, being that Geoff stated elsewhere that he had previously mapped out the first 60 issues (five years' worth) before the first one was even printed and being that the comics did come out in 2003 before the show hit air, it clearly means that his plans for BB & Rae were in motion before the show debuted, meaning that his BB/Rae-ism was not influenced by the show, until later when the costumes for them, as well as their banter back and forth, strikingly resembled that of the animated series. Sort of like how Cyborg's design in the 'Titans Tomorrow' arc had him drawn similar to his cartoon counterpart, but before that, his appearance was a contemporary update to his 'New Teen Titans' look.

 

 

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Anonymous--Rex Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
So?
My whole spiel concerned how there was opportunity for the animated series to influence Garfield and Raven's relationship in volume 3.  Over a year, I'd say, is quite ample.

Were it not for Raven healing him...incidentally at the same time that Slade became an ally to the Titans).
While I haven't read New Teen Titans, this doesn't indicate anything without some extended context.  Just par for the course for a super hero.

However, even if the idea was being tossed around even in the 80s-90s heyday by writers and editors, it is true that Raven and Beast Boy didn't become an official item until the Geoff Johns-J.T. Krul comic run (the 2003-2011 timeline).
What idea?  If you're talking about another Teen Titans series... well yeah - of course it would be.  Teen Titans was DC's golden child.  Their only title standing toe to toe with a certain marvelous group of mutants.  It'd be bizarre if a new installment on such a beloved series wasn't being tossed around.

For the rest of your post, I was with you until you said this:
That being said, being that Geoff stated elsewhere that he had previously mapped out the first 60 issues (five years' worth) before the first one was even printed and being that the comics did come out in 2003 before the show hit air, it clearly means that his plans for BB & Rae were in motion before the show debuted

Now, hopscotch, leapfrog, and jump rope are all fine and dandy, but leaping has no place in logic.  "Mapped out" is an incredibly nebulous term and while, sure, it does not exclude plans for a relationship, it does not necessitate it.  Most likely, he's referring to story arcs he had ideas for: those would be necessitated for 60 issues worth of writing.  You're gonna have to do more to demonstrate that the relationship was included in that planning.

Either way, that wasn't remotely explicit and is actually a synthesis of two different statements.  Much like mine, it requires evidence to give it weight while retaining that schrodinger-like existence that is innate to conjecture.  Incidentally, those remarks about cyborg actually support my notion far more than yours.  The Titans Tomorow arc began in issue 16.  That's a five months difference - functionally, closer to four.  It highlights the show's influence fairly early.  Of course, Season 3 had finished by then, and it was just as likely, if not more, the artist who did so as Johns.  These types of things give my notion weight, however.  Granted, we're not debating that there was influence.  Timing of that influence is what's key to my theory.



Also... Yay, bold~!  I didn't know that could be done here until your previous post.  But, monkey see monkey do; I'm a monkey just like you~
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minotaurlord9 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
I know most of that, thanks though for explaining, but they're based off a fairytale?
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013

Beauty and the Beast, of course. Raven's the strong and independant quiet bookworm ala Belle & The Beast inside of Beast Boy is not only drawn similar to Disney's Beast, but just as with the Perault version of the fable, the jilted man who pined for Beauty (Jaques in the Perault version) ends up becoming a Beast himself as the result of his vain selfishness (whereas Perault has Jaques suffer the curse of the Beast, Disney's Gaston, by contrast, naturally gets a traditional "Disney Death" typical of most villains, because unlike Jaques who actually has some noble qualities before his own desent into evil, Gaston is a pretencious male chavinist living the old custom of women being subservant to their fathers and husbands without question), much like how Adonis acted like a lecherous creeper towards Raven and how the fight between the Beast forms of Beast Boy and Adonis was basically the way male animals in the wild fight over a potential mate, in this case, Raven. Raven and Beast Boy being like Belle and "Adam" from the Disney adaptation mixed with parts of the Perault rendition of the tale as old as timewww.youtube.com/watch?v=4mlSKh… ] is akin to how Robin & Starfire are just like Eric and Ariel from Disney's version of Han Christian Anderson's The Little Mermaid, complete with them doing the famous rowboat sequence (minus crab Subastian singing Kiss the Girlwww.youtube.com/watch?v=AQn31h… ], which is what Robin's subconcious was probably thinking) during the Titans' trip to Tokyo.

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minotaurlord9 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
Gotcha, one question though.

Is all you do is look stuff like this up???
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
No. But I am a researcher, both in work and in play. Whether it is my IT job or my fandom preferences, I do research on what it is I am working with or discussing.
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minotaurlord9 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
Ah.
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TherealRNO Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
Glad to have explained things better for you.
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